Muthead
+0

Thinking about retiring from h2h...

What is the point of having a 91 overall team if you can't win games? Ever since I started stupid Atwater over Simmons to get to 91, every game has been against a pay-to-win sweater! So insane! I'm (explicitive) done with this bs! It's every day that I play against people who have EVERY good card in the game and run the same two plays the WHOLE GAME, or at least the first quarter until I quit after 2 pick 6's down 21 nothing! I'm tired of this! How do these people have all the best players and can sweep my 91 OVR team with ease, but when i play a bot they almost win?! I don't understand how a 91 defense can get steamrolled on by these people! When I get coins, I can buy one player for my team and be broke, but they can get everyone? So stupid! Make Madden fair! I payed 60 dollars and at least 20 extra for constant headaches and anger? Why do i get punished???

Copperheads

I’m just now starting to think about H2H. I always start slow and focus on free upgrades plus a few packs of course. Team building is my favorite part.

brolybro1333
-1 point

Retiring from something would require you to first have a career in that something. You can't have a career playing madden, gosh.

ProSlot
1 point

Actually retire just means to withdraw from a place or activity. You can retire from anything.

m1k3y6i2
1 point

Lmao true. I didn't want to use the word quit but that fits best lol

brolybro1333

yay! a OP with a sense of humor! im just messin with you. sorry you're having a rough streak. try to have fun with the game! I personally quit trying to go for the best team possible, mostly because EA will screw you with their "madden bullshit" as I like to call it (random ass occurrences where the opposing team gets CRAZY stat boosts/animations) and I just built a TT. I've had a lot more fun because I have a lot less expectation. with a top OVR team id expect to win every game. plus I stay away from WL buhahahaha. I dunno how some people get 25 games in on a weekend but I can't.

m1k3y6i2

They have a 99 overall top 3 and cheese the hell out of the game lol

champagnesnipes

i can show you my schemes bro, if it would make your life easier. im not the greatest but i get my 18 wins in weekend league and can win super bowls in h2h easily. I have a 91 overall team as well with 50/50 falcons tt

m1k3y6i2

The thing that is stopping me from hitting the full 50/50 is the O-Line from the Broncos. All golds and 1 88 RG, so I can't get the last 4 chem because the golds aren't usable. I expected that tho, so I'm not too worried about it. Maybe if I could have some tips that would be great, but I don't want to take your entire scheme

champagnesnipes

forsure, do you play on xbox or playstation?

m1k3y6i2

I play on xbox

ProSlot

How do 91 overall reg defenses get steamrolled by 85 ovr reg offenses? You put to much stock on card stats and not enough stock on player ability.

m1k3y6i2

That's true but still though, it's just weird idk

ProSlot

We just get wrapped up in "team development" that we forget this game on competitive mode is really balanced "from player to player" and that stats play a small role in gameplay. Scheme will always beat team on comp mode.

CTOUGH23

Forgive me, but literally every single h2h game I've played in the last week, every squad game, and every WL game is versus a top tier squad.....that's kind of the norm for MUT in mid November no? Also, I've mentioned in your threads prior about coins repeatedly not to buy the coin packs (this is the reason you never have coins because it's designed for the house to win 95%) but I'm quite aware that you continued to do so LOL. Stop doing that trust me when I say that's why others have millions!

m1k3y6i2

I don't buy expensive coins packs, maybe an AP fantasy here and there but never anything too crazy. The most expensive pack that I will buy will be 40k, but I haven't bought a coin pack in a while, not named the AP fantasies. And even if i did have coins, I can buy maybe 1 or 2 players that would help me, and then have no other way of getting those coins again, due to the lack of methods. But thanks

hackerw

Sounds like you should join a CFM - way better playing experience and it's free

m1k3y6i2

I actually am part of a CFM. 2-0 with the Chargers against the Bengals and Chiefs ;)

ProSlot

CFM is a very fun experience if your good at following rules and have a good schedule.

m1k3y6i2

Yeah I like it, pretty fun so far

ProSlot

I used to run a league. I started it 3 years ago. They are still active at 32/32 members but the mode gave me too much anxiety. I had to quit and now I just play squads "casually" with a RL buddy.

RazgrizHero222

Your starting Atwater?... In November? Sheesh

Ballsy

Atwater is better than Dawkins.

m1k3y6i2

Well he does go on my TT. I'm too broke to get Dawkins and Power him up, so I'm working with what I have. It's either him or Justin Simmons. I'm not great at the game, I get it. lmao

RazgrizHero222

Well. Solos are a ground. A lot of people use youtube to play. Other people just keep going until they find something that works. I run a Saints theme, 93 ovr, with 42 of 50 Saints. Might I suggest getting a strong safety, and paying the training to give him FS position and go from there. Theme teams arent always super effective until late in the year. Unless you chose a team loaded with options.

m1k3y6i2

I do have John Lynch as SS, but I do need to get someone else as well. My main predicament is that whenever I get coins, (right now I have 350k) I can only buy maybe 2 players and then all my coins are gone. 88 overalls don't help me and they are 40k+. Some 90s don't even help and they are 70k. 91 overall players are what, about 110k+? That's almost half of my coins, so maybe 2 helpful players for my team. I'm one of those people who really struggles to work the market, as all of my investments have resulted in a net loss. The lack of coin methods this year is killing any chance that I have. Most coins that I have had this year was yesterday when I had 500k.

RazgrizHero222

Lynch was a SS though.

Go build Tyrann Mathieu and move him back to FS His original.position. dude is lights out

Just a budget option

m1k3y6i2

I'll have to take a look, thanks

ruelmp
1 point

I have a 90 ovr Raiders theme team and I kind of feel it. It's god squad and the same scheme for every single person which gets bland too. Try playing draft teams or whatever, at least teams will be somewhat even.

m1k3y6i2

I like draft for the most part. I play it every now and then, and has really been the only way to make coins this year lol. Thanks for the tip tho, I might go back again

user-100128283

Its from time to time very frustrating even if you have a god squad or not, but for me it´s NEVER about the OVR of your squad. Like most i´m running a theme team with a few other great cards that fill it up but i still have a few gold cards that take down the OVR but they never see the field so it dosent matter at all. It´s all about the scheme you are using during a game. Like a person mentioned down below here somewhere it´s not an sim football game it´s an arcade game, and treat it like that. The basic concepts of awerness and play recognition dosent exist in this game, it´s all about speed over and over again, that is why SS Taylor Mays is one of the best cards you can get for your defense while in real life he couldent stay in the NFL or even the CFL.

Try out squads insted, it might be hard to find a good squadmate but if you do its for sure the best mode in the game!

m1k3y6i2

I played two games of squads this year. First one was with my bro a week after the game launched, and we saw 97 Barry Sanders, so we promptly conceded lol. Next game was pretty fun actually. I played as head coach to see if someone's team could carry me, and we had a great offense, but the defense was maybe a 75 OVR. The other team had 3 users and Terry McLaurin, so it was a touchdown every play. But my team had Carmichael right after he came out with redzone threat, and it was so much fun. I almost won the game as well, despite the other 2 people on my team quitting lol

user-100128283

A 97 ovr Barry Sanders a week after the game was launched, hmm seems a bit funky to me? The running game is for sure easier to shut down this year with a few formations but ofc the runing game is still powerfull though. Dont care that much about the ovr of youre team, just learn a scheme on offense., It´s easier to score in this years madden with LB´s being total shit without lurker or any ability and just pick up some man beater routes and you will be good.

ProSlot

Chems double up in squads so its not hard to go up 3-4 sometimes even 5 overalls.

m1k3y6i2

I'll have to do some research, thanks for the tip. I popped lurker on CHJ so hopefully it does something

idapapi79

Didnt you make a thread crying about this a month ago? Im a firm believer of scheme over team so get good or stick to solos.

m1k3y6i2
-1 point

You're a quick one. I was surprised how long it took my fan club to show up. As you said, I haven't complained in a month. I'm allowed to complain, and I never said that I was 100% quitting, only thinking about it. But thanks for the reply

jonezy

I’m for giveaway but don’t do it bro, just get rid of Atwater bro

m1k3y6i2

I'll just bench Atwater lol. Goes on my TT but Dawkins is probably so much better

jonezy

Yeah use Atwater in the box, Dawkins up top

Steelcurtain_86

Just have fun and not take it seriously. Forget about the logic involved it's EA bro....

Dreverse

Hey check your pms it will explain it would take up way to much space here so rather that I just sent the explanation to you there

4north82xbox
-1 point

I've found the best way to get a really, really good team without having to drop a ton of cash on the game is a 50/50 theme team. The plus 2/3 you get on almost every player closes the gap pretty quick.

m1k3y6i2

I tried what you said, and ended up with a 1 overall less offense, but i got 350k coins. I greatly appreciate the advice bro

Edited by m1k3y6i2

m1k3y6i2

I do have a Broncos TT in addition to my main, but most of the players overlap. Only thin about my TT is that most of the players aren't max (too expensive) but I do have a 50/50 TT on standby

4north82xbox
-1 point

You can't do it with any team though, Ravens, 49ers, a couple others you can get a 94 overall squad.

m1k3y6i2

49ers TT's are insane right now lmao. Ronnie Lott alone is worth more than half my team. Just gotta keep playing ig

natenator76
1 point

Don't hate me for saying this but to some extent scheme > team. Sure, team helps a lot no question but I watched skimbo for a few mins light up the scoreboard with an 88 ovr team yesterday. Yes, I know there is a massive skill difference between skimbo and 99% other us mortal madden players but there is some truth in when people say scheme > team. I am definitely not one of those as I need the best of the best to compete. Just know there are plenty of people racking up wins with a 91 OVR team on the regular.

One thing I might suggest is watching buffalo kay to try and find ways you can work the market and build your coin stack to afford the better cards. Sorry for your struggle bro. It's not easy out there these days with nonstop man coverage and user rushing douchebags.

m1k3y6i2

Yeah the meta crushes me sometimes. I'm going to do a bunch of research tomorrow on methods and the market. I did pull 350k out of my ass after this thread so idk. Going to try to get more

massadolphin

91 doesn't seem far off of the god squads . Not sure but isn't the highest you can be is 93 atm ? It does get frustrating and 01 trap can be hell . Hopefully you stick it out .

xspo0ns

i have a 95 OVR defense with 50/50 49ers chem, but not overall.

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ganggreen916

CC's Best Team in Madden is now a 94 OVR, but thats the absolute best with chem's for everyone including high rated backups.

My 49ers TT is 93 ovr. 91 ovr is a solid team.

m1k3y6i2

I hope so too, I just hate seeing what I used to love go down the drain so quickly. Hey, at least I pulled Harrison Smith that amounted to nothing for my team :/

Sometimes it's not about the players you have, it's the scheme you run and getting players who fit that scheme. I'm a 91 overall and i still use RP Queen. 91, 92, 93, they really aren't that different and it usually comes down to schemes unless you're a cheeser but they don't matter anyway. Find out what you want to do and go from there. I like to have a big secondary that can hit hard with speed so i like to have safeties like Adams, Mays, etc. speed on my dline so i have guys Mathis, Glover who is fast for a DT and they all get the job done

fiyaman93

Thats typically how it is make one adjust in your lineup to improve and ea kicks your a**.

m1k3y6i2

Its Steve Atwater, he should make my team play better if anything lol. But one overall at FS shouldn't make me play 98 Sam Mills every game 😐

nicksr84
1 point

Dubby won 21 games with his 84 ovr nms team. He's using 81 Herbert at qb

4north82xbox
-1 point

Does he do it for a living though? I can't imagine how good I would be if this was my damn job!

Don't worry about it OP. The game is a joke this year and the AI does absolutely nothing. Defense was watered down and it's tougher to grind for rewards/coins. I'm usually top 300-500 with 100-150 games over .500 in h2h every season and so far, i'm only about 20-25 over .500. It's still early and i'm still learning but they definitely nerfed things that worked in the past, especially usering a defender.

This is one of the only competitive games i play all year and it sucks that it's more like an arcade game than a football sim, that's why you lose to be honest. Has nothing to do with not being good, it's just that basic football mechanics don't exist in this game so you can't play it like a football game, you need to play it like an arcade game. Just keep playing and adjusting and don't stress over the dumb shit, it's an awful game at the end of the day.

m1k3y6i2

I just wish it was a little fairer y'know? I thought DDA was supposed to help the disadvantaged player, not hurt them?

Yeah, this game is all messed up but don't beat yourself up over it.

clang36

Let me guess, one of those 2 plays was PA rollout?

m1k3y6i2

Gun bunch primarily, and O1 Trap

ganggreen916

I've faced the same with a 93 ovr team. Guys will come out doing what they want until I stop it or get a TO, then they run or pass to the sidelines for 8 or 9 yards each play so they can win.

m1k3y6i2

Its just weird when I run the same exact play or plays that they run, and they usually never work. Its specifically Trap. When I try to run it, I either get tackled for a loss, or it goes for 2 yards, never more. Maybe puller elite guards are needed?

madjajjer

I dont play unless its house rules. I'm sure I need to change my playbooks too but some of these dudes be having juiced lineups