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refusing to use skill list

no skill offense

drags/table routes - replace with in and swing every close/tight formation deep slant/short post/crosser thrown on far side of the field. thrown when it breaks or in the middle is fine. this isnt really in the same category as the others but really havent seen motion used in anyway thats not very unskillful.

no skill defense

deep blue in the middle of a cover 2 ( cant stress how bad this is. it is the most unskillful thing in the entire game and even most cheats and glitches take more skill) 3 man dline - 335,335odd, dollar, one of the 236, 146 hovering with your user nickel blitz with pinched dline (pinch glitches the angle, hovering as mentioned above) manually dragging anything thats not your user. ( ea can just make dragged players reset and go back and this wouldnt be a thing) man blitz repeadetly, this is more than ok if sprinkled in/rotated.

elaurant0

no skill offense

drags/table routes - replace with in and swing every close/tight formation deep slant/short post/crosser thrown on far side of the field. thrown when it breaks or in the middle is fine. this isnt really in the same category as the others but really havent seen motion used in anyway thats not very unskillful.

no skill defense

deep blue in the middle of a cover 2 ( cant stress how bad this is. it is the most unskillful thing in the entire game and even most cheats and glitches take more skill) 3 man dline - 335,335odd, dollar, one of the 236, 146 hovering with your user nickel blitz with pinched dline (pinch glitches the angle, hovering as mentioned above) manually dragging anything thats not your user. ( ea can just make dragged players reset and go back and this wouldnt be a thing) man blitz repeadetly, this is more than ok if sprinkled in/rotated.

elaurant0

so many clueless people who aside from being oblivious and defending things that benefit them no matter how wrong are breaking rule #1.

read before posting.

 i made this list to TELL people what is unskillful and unrealistic. not to argue or get attacked by people who dont wish to play or even know what real football is. one of the first things i said is its not about stopping it, its about it taking zero skill to use because of unrealism.

people choose how they play i can never change that, the sole purpose of this thread is to detail what is unskillful/unrealistic and why to help people play the game with skill and realism if they choose.

the people who refuse to use skill, most of which intentionally and deliberately cheat and glitch also are going to do whatever it takes to win and defend their actions blindly at all costs.

Silver_Back

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ScottyJC

Quote from Silver_Back >> Quote from elaurant0 >> there is a lot to answer so sorry if i miss some questions.

people can play the game how they like. i cant stop them, all i am doing is making sure they know what is skillful and whats not. if they choose to refuse to use skill and even cheat thats on them.  il be the first to stop when the gameplay becomes acceptable but knowing ea this could never happen.

Silver_Back

Quote from elaurant0 >> there is a lot to answer so sorry if i miss some questions.

people can play the game how they like. i cant stop them, all i am doing is making sure they know what is skillful and whats not. if they choose to refuse to use skill and even cheat thats on them.  il be the first to stop when the gameplay becomes acceptable but knowing ea this could never happen. call it old fashioned but if you deserve something you can earn it. cheating is wrong. refusing to use skill and cheating/glitching to win a video game is really low imo and you 110% dont deserve anything and dont earn a thing when you play this way. guess some people these days have a code where cheating and refusing to use skill to win is ok but i dont wish to know or see such people irl let alone in madden.

ScottyJC

Not a single thing you’ve mentioned can’t be stopped...... as has been said by a few other people. This is purely about you wanting to people to play your way.

Do things bother me when I play online? Of course? But I adjust and try to stop it... you know... use some skill. I don’t play the entitled card on a forum. 

The motion glitch this year was a genuine glitch but even that was stoppable. The amount of times i picked off people trying the motion toss was crazy.

im sorry but really you just need to improve. No hate... just be better. 

Sorry if that sounds harsh but just adjust. I can guarantee you the entire player base won’t change to suit your style. 

Harsh reality. Deal with it I’m afraid

elaurant0

considering adding out routes to this list. the 15 yard variety. beats coverage regardless of stats ( db almost always turns inwards at the break for some reason) tons and i mean tons of catches in coverage, feels like timing isnt a factor at all like last year. thoughts?

elaurant0

Quote from Robrules1 >> Quote from elaurant0 >> thought i would bump this to the top in the extremely low hope that more people see it and have the will to play properly and skillfully.

You mean play the way you want them to?

 i do want people to play skillfully and realistically. do you think its bad of me to want that?

Robrules1

Quote from elaurant0 >> thought i would bump this to the top in the extremely low hope that more people see it and have the will to play properly and skillfully.

You mean play the way you want them to?

elaurant0

thought i would bump this to the top in the extremely low hope that more people see it and have the will to play properly and skillfully.

elaurant0

ea asking for this information on twitter instead of reading/acknowledging this forum in anyway. pretty much a troll i feel, if they dont know whats wrong with the game they are clueless, if they dont read this forum they arent trying.

elaurant0

there is a lot to answer so sorry if i miss some questions.

people can play the game how they like. i cant stop them, all i am doing is making sure they know what is skillful and whats not. if they choose to refuse to use skill and even cheat thats on them.  il be the first to stop when the gameplay becomes acceptable but knowing ea this could never happen. call it old fashioned but if you deserve something you can earn it. cheating is wrong. refusing to use skill and cheating/glitching to win a video game is really low imo and you 110% dont deserve anything and dont earn a thing when you play this way. guess some people these days have a code where cheating and refusing to use skill to win is ok but i dont wish to know or see such people irl let alone in madden. really sick of being openly trolled by a mod. like i said before making the game and/or community is much a much better use of time ( even if pointless) than becoming as toxic as people you are supposed moderate.

NinerNation

It would take me all of 5 minutes to find a YouTube video of a REAL NFL TEAM running every single thing you have listed as "unskillful and unrealistic." You think the Madden devs are smart enough to pull football concepts out of thin air? Don't you think they would have to exist in real life playbooks to be included in the game? 

Especially drags. Are you kidding me? Teams were running drags in the 1960s.

Robrules1

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hookrightthur

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SidSeal

What's wrong with drags? Haven't heard that one before

WaltzerWhite

Quote from elaurant0 >> Quote from WaltzerWhite >> Learn to adapt

 this isnt about winning or losing. this is about right and wrong. nothing i do will ever make my opponent doing the wrong think ok.

 This is Madden homie, no one gives af about right and wrong in a video game!! Because you know....it's a video game!!

Robrules1

Quote from elaurant0 >> Quote from lachrystillness >> Heres a thought, gather some friends and make a sim league with your rules. Oh, nevermind, can see where that would be an issue. 

 thanks for openly trolling me mod/elite tier member. there is a thread for you to lock in mut discussion. you know try helping the community like i do.

elaurant0

Quote from WaltzerWhite >> Learn to adapt

 this isnt about winning or losing. this is about right and wrong. nothing i do will ever make my opponent doing the wrong think ok.

WaltzerWhite

Learn to adapt